just a thought

so while we all assume Rey is Luke’s daughter, we don’t really know,

but we do know this

-Kylo Ren (Ben Solo) was Luke’s nephew and student

-Rey can use the force

-Luke had multiple students

-Rey knows someone left her on Jakku but can’t remember who

soooooo we have some room for theorizing

Originally posted by ihatepeacocks

Rey in her series of flash backs sees many things, Kylo Ren and a sort of squad (knights of ren?) surrounded by multiple dead bodies. We see Luke place his hand on R2-D2 and then we also see Rey being left behind on Jakku and a ship leaving her with the guy she gets her rations from (forgive me i don’t know his name)

so going off the assumption that Rey was with all the other Jedi Trainees and yet she was spared from it.

which means someone got her out

i think we have 3 options when it comes to who left her on Jakku, her mother, luke, or Kylo Ren

While there’s no evidence for it being her mother, there’s no evidence against it either.

so that leaves us with Luke and Kylo Ren

My problem with it being Luke IS luke wouldn’t abandon his last student and hope for the Jedi on a junkyard planet, left to all but starve.  and at the end of the movie, luke seems surprised to see Rey, and the movie took a more hopeful turn when we saw that Luke let himself be found (he could’ve sensed her and hidden) because there was another student, ALSO and i think this is very important. Luke hated where he grew up, he wanted nothing more than to leave it, so he would not abandon a student (especially if it was his child) in a place so similar. 

Originally posted by tomato-bird

(also family was important to Luke, he would’ve left his child with his sister)

AND FINALLY Rey is left with the junkyard guy (sorry) someone who clearly didn’t care for Rey or her health or safety, luke again would not leave his student (or child) in the hands of someone who clearly gave no reason to trust them

SOOOOOOOOO THIS BRINGS ME TO WHO I REALLY THINK IT IS.

………

Kylo Ren

Originally posted by jeanifurr

Kylo Ren was a student, Luke’s student who failed to kill just

ONE

of the Jedi 

why Rey survived would have to be debated as well

My theories

- If we are going on the belief that Rey is Luke’s daughter, Kylo Ren could’ve spared her because she was Luke’s daughter, and he knew it would bring him pain if he kept her hidden

- again, on the assumption Rey is luke’s daughter, that would make Kylo Ren and Rey family, and he could’ve been unable to kill his younger cousin

- it is possible that while Kylo Ren was training, something happened that made him feel responsible for her, maybe (and not in a creepy way) he loved her and wanted to protect her (it’s not impossible that Kylo had friends/ people he loved)

- Rey is powerful, Kylo Ren may of known this, and therefore kept her on Jakku, not wanting to waste the power, but keep it hidden until he could use it to his advantage

I personally would like to believe that Kylo Ren and Rey were friends (almost a mentoring relationship- like when a 5th grader mentors a kindergartener) and that he did not wish for any harm to come to her and therefore he kept her on Jakku.

Now let’s think, the junk collector guy who Rey was left with. He is easily bought? Yes

Someone probably convinced him to hold on to Rey when they left. But we knew he is easily bought, so what was he paid. Let us think.

First we knew that as time goes by what Rey brings to him gets her less rations, so whoever paid the man to hold on to her, clearly didn’t pay enough for it to last until her older age. (her welcome is being worn off)

Let’s think of what he has, The Millennium Falcon?????

Originally posted by gameraboy

now we all know who the Falcon belongs to, Han Solo. But we also know who Han Solo is and who he has fathered.

When Rey and Finn leave during the attack on Jakku, they take the Falcon and the junk guy scream “That’s my ship!”

But it’s not, but perhaps he thinks he truly has claim over it because it was traded in exchange for a favor. The Millennium Falcon, for watching over Rey?

Now we have to keep in mind that Ben Solo (Kylo Ren) would probably not be a stranger to the Falcon, and perhaps Rey even helped him fly it at a young age when he came to Jakku.

(now i know there was a list of people who supposedly had the falcon, but i still believe it could’ve ended up in Ben Solo’s hands, it certainly ended up in Rey’s)

So I believe that in exchange for watching over (or just holding Rey back) Kylo Ren gave the junk guy (i need a name) the Millennium Falcon.

more evidence of it being Kylo Ren who left her on Jakku is similar to my other post “What Girl?”

but think about it, Kylo Ren was very distressed when he heard that not only had Finn gotten away with the BB-8, but they escaped with a girl on the Millennium Falcon.

ALSOOOO Kylo Ren never tries to kill Rey, 

he could easily kill her, but he never does

 (he slams her against the tree, but I believe it is to get her out of the way so he can deal with Finn) 

but he never really tries to kill her or harm her beyond that.

Originally posted by kylieren

He even offers to show her the ways of the force THE FORCE, NOT THE DARK SIDE.

He says she needs a teacher, a mentor, which would go along with the idea that he felt like a mentor/ responsible for her.

He even shows his face to her because he wants her to see him for who he is, and not be scared and think he is a creature trying to hunt her. He does it without being asked. He reveals himself entirely by his choice. 

for a girl who had been left on Jakku, as alone as he felt inside. 

That’s it.

(I’m sure there’s more that i’ve forgotten)

but there you go.

 LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

ARGUMENTS FOR/ AGAINST MY THEORY ARE WELCOME.

Originally posted by in-the-land-of-gods-and-monsters

The reason I am mainly seeing to why people don’t believe she is a Solo is because they don’t understand why Han and Leia didn’t recognize Rey when they met her, so at the moment that’s the only point I’m directing.

My reply to this is always, they did.

They did recognize her.

This is the point where people go “No they didn’t??? And if they did, why didn’t they say something or act like it???”

But they did. You can see it in the way Han is amazed by how much she knows about the Millennium Falcon, or how he and Leia look at her when she isn’t paying attention. They look at her with unsure glances. How you would look at a high school friend that you hadn’t seen 10 years.

Or, how you would look at someone who you thought died years ago.

Yes, the reason they don’t recognize Rey or bring it up at all, is because they think she is dead.

Think about it, Han and Leia have two kids, and as we can see, they both have the force. It would only be logical for them to send both of them off to train with Luke, especially if the reason why they’re sending Ben off to train with Luke is because they’re scared that he has Vader in him. If Ben does, what if Rey does too? Might as well send her off as well just to be sure.

This theory also explains why Luke went into hiding.

Yes, sure. You could say that he went into hiding because he failed at training Ben. But. Get this.

Imagine, you’re Luke. Your sister sends to you her son, and her younger daughter. Most likely explaining that they were worried for Ben. So he trains them and the new ‘batch’ of Jedi, up until the point of the massacre.

Now, I believe that Kylo is just as strong and skilled as a lot of people do, but to kill all the training Jedi knights and younglings, is a bit of a stretch to me.

We’ve already been informed of this ‘Knights of Ren’ thing, but not what it is.

My theory is that he did the logical thing, and got a bunch of the Jedi to join him. Rightfully naming them, the Knights of Ren. Even if that is wrong, and they were just a bunch of people under Snoke, my theory still stands.

Anyways. Ben (now known as Kylo) kills all the Jedi. All but one. Rey. Because of course, how could he kill his sister? It’s even seen in her vision. She is lying there (as old her, but we can assume that it was really young her in the flashback) and one of the Knights of Ren, swings to kill her. When he is stabbed and she is saved, by a red lightsaber. Kylo’s lightsaber. Kylo.

He can’t kill her. She is his little sister. At this point, he isn’t strong enough in his hate or ‘darkness’. With roughly 10 years of training to be ‘evil’, he still killed his father with regret, how the heck could he kill his own little sister?

So he doesn’t. He convinces the other KoR either not to tell, or that he will kill her, and he goes off and secretly sets her on Jakku. He erases her memory and possibly gives her fake memories of her ‘parents’ leaving her on Jakku. That way he is assured that 1) She will ever be harmed. and 2) She will never be a problem.

No one knows of this but him. Luke, Leia, Han, even Snoke, all think that she is dead. And that is what pushes Luke over the edge.

Because of him, his sister lost two of the most, if not the most, important people in her life. Because he could not help Ben, his sisters kids are both gone. It makes more sense to me that he would run away because he is ashamed that he let this happen. That Leia will never be okay again. It is shame that drives him to be a hermit, not pain. We’ve seen Luke look straight into the eyes of pain. It’s not always an easy fight, but it would be easier than fighting off shame.

So when Han and Leia see Rey, it only makes sense why Han is so quick to take her under his wing. He see’s her, and he see’s the daughter he could of had if he hadn’t lost her. It explains why he looks at her with that “I know you. I swear, you are just like my daughter… But my daughter is dead.”

Not only that, but why they never bring her up. If your own daughter was murdered at the hand of your son, would you ever want to remember that? It also explains why they only talk about Ben oh so much (then again, killing a bunch of jedi usually does that)

It explains why Kylo screams “what girl?” when he hears that BB-8 escaped with a girl from Jakku, and why he is softer around her.

Another thing that came to mind when I was thinking of this, is what other people have been saying about how the lightsaber called to her. And it made me think of what Kylo says when they are about to fight. What starts the battle between Kylo and Finn.

He sees the lightsaber, and he screams “that lightsaber belongs to me”. After thinking about it, I realized something. That lightsaber is Anakin’s. Not Darth Vader. Anakin’s.

As J.J. Abrams says.

“Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader, not Anakin Skywalker. He idolizes what Vader represents and what Vader was trying to do.”

If he idolizes Darth Vader, and not Anakin, why the heck would he care so much for Anakin’s lightsaber?

Yes, you could say that it was because Darth Vader’s was destroyed or missing or whatever generally happened to it, so Anakin’s was the next best thing. But that just doesn’t make sense to me.

What does make sense, is that when they were training, Rey was given Luke’s (Anakin) lightsaber, because Luke decided that it was fit for her.

Now if you look at it through Ben’s point of view, he already feels angry and unloved from his parents, but now he isn’t even given the family lightsaber? He was the first born, shouldn’t that be his?

That theory also explains why when Rey touches it, she get’s her vision of that fateful night. (And why Kylo decided to make his own lightsaber.)

So when he is screaming “that lightsaber belongs to me!” he means it because he actually believes that it should be his.

In conclusion, I’m pretty dead set on Rey being a Solo.

yoda is straight chillin